By “less” he meant “more”

Trump issued a “the flu is worse, COVID is nothing” tweet and Facebook post this morning. For once Twitter and Facebook stomped on it.

Twitter not only flagged it, it veiled it. It doesn’t always take that second step.

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13 responses to “By “less” he meant “more””

  1. zubanel Avatar

    If twitter really cared about misleading tweets, there would have been no tweets from the “dump” for the past 4 years. Too little too late.Flagging anything he says now only means that they understood the malicious intent behind all the other tweets of his and they were perfectly fine with them.

  2. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    So he’s just overlooking the fact that COVID has killed twice as many Americans this year than his ‘sometimes over 1000’ flu victims, and given that the virus has been active all year, then unlike flu there is no COVID ‘season’.

  3. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Twice as many? Over 200 times as many and it’s only October.

  4. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    Sorry, that should have been 100,000 as per his tweet.

  5. iknklast Avatar

    Several sources have fact checked his claim; flu deaths don’t usually come close to 100,000. During pandemics, we see that many, but otherwise, they are much lower (though in the 2017-2018 season there were 61,000 – that’s the closest in a long, long time).

  6. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    iknklast, it’s also important to note that even the genuine figures for flu deaths are probably higher than they would be were it not for two factors in play. The first is the anti-vax movement and the second, and likely most important, is that many people simply cannot afford a flu shot. I wonder how much of an effect eliminating those factors would have on the number of deaths from flu?

  7. iknklast Avatar

    AoS, I hate the anti-vax movement. They have a lot to answer for. And it is my opinion that the flu shot should be free. The government should provide it for everyone, which would make sense. That isn’t going to happen, of course, though there are some places where people can get the flu shot for free…if they have access to those places. I know WalGreens will do that, but they usually say “with insurance”, so it isn’t like they’re giving anything. They’re claiming the insurance, and writing off the co-pay. So people without insurance are still out of luck.

  8. Mike Kuebler Avatar

    Confirming what iknklast said about Walgreens, I thought I was getting a free shot last year but I had to pay for it. In retrospect I probably could have gone to my regular doctor and paid about the same even without insurance.

  9. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    Just out of interest, what is the average price of a flu shot in the US? Over here, it is free for many including OAPs, those receiving unemployment or disability benefits, the low-waged, and under-18s in full-time education, among others, and for everybody else, it costs £10.08, which is $13.00 US.

  10. Mike Kuebler Avatar
    Mike Kuebler

    If memory serves I think it was ~$65 for my shot, which was a lot more than I could readily afford at the time but I needed the shot to be able to work a temp job. Don’t get me started on how expensive everything is when you’re poor or unemployed or usually both.

  11. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Eeesh, that’s a lot – I was thinking it ranged from about $10 to $30.

  12. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Via Google I see this –

    Find a vaccination clinic in King County. Includes free and low clinics, and for people without health insurance. Find a public health department in Washington State on the membership list at National Association of County and City Health Officials

    .

    Presumably that meant “free and low COST clinics.”

  13. Rob Avatar

    Flu vaccination prices vary in NZ. The actual vaccine dose apparently costs NZ$9. For many people (pregnant women, those aged over 65, those under 65 with certain medical conditions, those aged under 5 with certain medical conditions) the vaccine is free.

    For everyone else there is a subsidy payable (around ~NZ$20) if you go to your local health clinic or pharmacy for the shot. Typically the you’ll be charged another NZ$18-25. If you get it through a non-subsidised commercial provider the charge is usually on the order of NZ$30-40.

    So, in US$ free to $26 or in UKP free to 20.