Oh yes they are

On Radio 4 this morning –

Three men talk about the way Stonewall’s conception of trans rights affects women’s rights.

At 6:35 Benjamin Cohen, CEO of Pink News, says emphatically that Stonewall is not campaigning for women’s safe spaces “not to be women-only.”

“They aren’t campaigning for that,” he says, “that’s just misinformation being spread by a homophobic and transphobic media.”

The hell it is.

Of course in the through the looking-glass world of trans dogma, what he said is true because transwomenarewomen. But in the real world where real women have to live and survive, trans women are men, and women have no way of knowing which ones are a threat, which is why women-only spaces are needed in the first place.

Another crack in the ice.

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8 responses to “Oh yes they are”

  1. latsot Avatar

    You have to admit that Cohen is hilariously unhinged, though. I could watch it all day. As I’ve said before, people like Cohen are so bedraggled by ideology and so effectively shielded from criticism by the barricades they’ve coerced people into building that they’ve lost the ability to argue.

    I think Cohen is confused by the simple existence of arguments and probing questions. He’s entirely flummoxed by the idea that he might have to tell the truth. It’s as good an explanation as any of his shambolic behaviour in this interview (he’s not new to broadcasting, by any means) and the recent PR disasters of his ideological brethren and sistren.

  2. Sackbut Avatar

    Kudos to Justin Webb. It was equal parts fascinating and infuriating to hear Cohen not only, well, misstate the facts, but also blather on in an attempt to make the entire argument about transphobic media and people (with “homophobic” thrown in a few times for good measure). Webb was trying valiantly to get an answer to the question of “can’t women advocate for their own needs”, and Cohen never came anywhere close to that question; he talked about single-sex spaces a tiny bit, but nothing about women advocating for such things.

  3. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Yep women are all over Twitter thanking him for his fine work.

  4. latsot Avatar

    with “homophobic” thrown in a few times for good measure

    Cohen has also been complaining about a screen capture of him that some news outlet has used as an image for the story. The picture shows him with a sticking plaster on his head, which I suppose is unflattering and possibly a little unkind.

    But Cohen says it’s homophobic.

  5. Sackbut Avatar

    Oh, I love this tweet that Glinner posted on his blog:

    https://twitter.com/HackneyReSiste2/status/1402244233306779651?s=20

    So – again for the hard of hearing.

    1. BBC asked Stonewall to put someone up for interview

    2. Stonewall didn’t pick a trans person

    3. Stonewall didn’t pick a Stonewall person

    4. Stonewall picked Ben from Pink News

    5. Ben – not a trans person – accepted

    You know the classic definition of chutzpah? The guy who kills his parents then pleads for mercy because he’s an orphan? This sounds like chutzpah to me.

  6. Catwhisperer Avatar
    Catwhisperer

    Everything about that was just beautiful. Justin Webb’s “You don’t know anything about me” in response to “I’m not trans, you’re not trans, he’s not trans” – do we think there’s any chance it will be Justine Webb presenting the Today program next week? Nope. Does it flag the issue that TRAs can identify men and women without any difficulty, and are just pretending some of the time that nobody can possibly know anyone’s gender identity or sex by just looking at them? Why yes, it does. Then the cold “yes, very good, you’ve made your statement, now answer the question”. Pointing out that “GC feminism is a polite term for transphobia” is a lie. And then the final shrug of “well, time’s up and as I said, Stonewall could have sent someone to talk to us but didn’t” sounding like it took a real effort not to add “…so that’s why we got this clown on.”

    So, I assume the wicker man in which Justin Webb is to be burned is already under construction?

  7. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Yes, I particularly liked the emphatic way he contradicted the “GC feminism is a polite term for transphobia” insult – “I know it’s not and you know it’s not.” Called him a liar basically. Good, let’s have more of that.