Buzzards
We are much worried about Allison Bailey. (Who’s we? Her admirers, friends, colleagues, comrades, fans.) She’s in the hospital and there is no news.
The majority view is yes, it was a deliberate troll by Stonewall.
Also this:
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We are much worried about Allison Bailey. (Who’s we? Her admirers, friends, colleagues, comrades, fans.) She’s in the hospital and there is no news.
The majority view is yes, it was a deliberate troll by Stonewall.
Also this:
What’s the troll?
That none of Stonewall’s picks are Allison Bailey, or that some of Stonewall’s picks are men?
There’s background I don’t know.
I was disturbed to see Jackie Kay, a writer I much admire, heading Stonewall’s list. I wasn’t the only one, either.
So I looked up her twitter account – and behold!
Jackie Kay doesn’t put pronouns in her twitter bio, either, or anywhere else that I can find. Someone at Stonewall has presumptuously added them after her name.
NightCrow @ 2
Wow, that’s awful. I had to check if Edwina Rogers was now working for Stonewall, but she isn’t; she pulled a similar stunt for the Secular Policy Institute.
MadDog @1
My understanding is that Stonewall hasn’t mentioned lesbians in a long time (I can’t find the article, but someone recently did a reference count on their web site and found “lesbian” and “gay” dropped off significantly since the trans issue became prominent), and suddenly they come up with this (apparently hasty) tweet right after JKR and others celebrate Allison Bailey, who is suing Stonewall. Stonewall’s list, of course, does not contain Bailey.
That is horrible. Stonewall keeps outdoing itself.
Sackbut @ 3
Someone at Sex Matters recently ran some word counts on the instruction manual for organisations and businesses making submissions to Stonewall’s Workplace Equality Index. Here is a summary of what they found, in this document of over 9,000 words:
@Nightcrow #5: If that’s not good reason to fund the LGB Alliance I can’t think of one. Stonewall’s mission creep has moved completely away from any pretense of supporting LGB in favor of TQ+.
The thing about crowing in delight when your ideological opponents suffer some real-life tragedy is that it’s assured that the same will happen you when you suffer or die. Rush Limbaugh made a habit of laughing at the suffering of others, and when he died there was a sustained round of rejoicing, and to top that off, not long ago someone made the observation on twitter that nothing has been said of Limbaugh since he died, and that he has no legacy because he’ll be forgotten to time. That tweet was briefly retweeted, and then as if to underscore the message, people moved on and the associated hashtag sank into oblivion.
“India” Willoughby, that is most likely the fate that awaits you, as well. I hope that it was all worth it, living the distasteful life that you do.
James Garnett, I can agree with most of that, but Rush does leave a legacy, a huge one, even if not in his name being on all lips. He leaves a legacy in all the people he inspired with his twisted, hateful rhetoric, and was one of those responsible for bringing about the rise of the alt-right. Legacy isn’t all about your name. Henrietta Leavitt left an enormous legacy, even though most people still don’t know who she was.
iknklast @8
That name looks familiar.
HeLa cells??
I think I got it wrong.
HeLa cells => Henrietta Lacks
Karen – Henrietta Leavitt was one of the Harvard computers; she discovered the method by which we can determine how far away stars are by determining their absolute brightness from the rate they pulsate. Yeah, and she did it for free. Because no one would pay women. And they didn’t let her use the telescope, and once she discovered the method, her own data. They turned it over to men to get all the glory.
The last news I heard about Alison is that she was “OK”, with friends at the hospital and due to go home later that day. It is all very worrying.
@NightCrow:
I’m not saying this to undermine your point (it doesn’t) but an important aside: “same-sex” and particularly “same-sex attracted” are now forbidden phrases. Trans activists are working overtime to link the phrase with gay conversion therapy, thereby smearing anyone who uses it as a homophobe.
This is because it’s too specific and so doesn’t suit their twisty arguments. If you talk about gay men and lesbians, a TA can always claim the term includes those of the opposite sex and feign confusion, muddying the water and derailing any discussion. This happens all the time on Twitter, which has caused people actually arguing in good faith to use ‘”same-sex attracted” instead, to prevent the derailment. And so the TAs have responded by smearing people who use it as homophobes ‘who use the language of gay conversion therapy’.
An increasing number have gone a step further, claiming outright that people who use the term are paedophiles or paedophile apologists and bestiality aficionados. Bear with me, it’s a torturous ride to get there:
“Same-sex attracted” does not specify the age of the attractive person, or even their species. Therefore, the ‘argument’ goes, people who use it are attempting to both obscure and normalise sexual attraction to children and animals.
Nobody believes any of this, of course, it’s just another derailment tactic. It works.
Desperate? Certainly. I’ve seen it quite a lot recently. TAs seem to love playing the paedophile card. I was in a thread yesterday where people were interminably discussing being attracted to sex rather than gender or the reverse. A woman posted a picture of her partner tying he son’s shoelace (faces obscured), saying that although the man was doing something that some might think stereotypically associated with femininity (childcare) she still found the man attractive, making the point that we’re attracted to bodies. Of course, a TA on the thread immediately called her a paedophile for posting a picture of a child (her own son!) in a thread about sexual attraction. He claimed to be so disturbed by it that he had to go for a walk to calm down. Of course, everyone else just laughed at him and he got stroppy, but it successfully derailed the thread.
It seems to me that this need to control language is getting increasingly desperate and deranged. I’m sure it can only mean that the cracks are spreading.
Thanks iknklast (@11)