What irreversible really means
I thought about doing a post on TullipR’s thread yesterday but it’s so grim I couldn’t face it.
It’s a detransition story, and it’s painful to read…because it’s so beyond painful to experience.
This is what’s being called “affirmation” and urged on distraught teenagers who aren’t equipped to understand all the consequences.
What’s also horrifying is the mass reporting. It’s not a good situation when there is a big group of people out there that promote this butchery and don’t want young people to be informed of the consequences. They hide the reality and the truth of it. It’s malice of the highest order. The trans cult has absolutely no virtue that I can ascertain.
Please, someone speak up and explain how this is ok if you think it is. We’re reasonable here, tell us why.
I think it’s most frightening that this is not disclosed upfront. This wasn’t a set of botched surgeries, this is the process as designed.
I have thought for a while that the thing which will finally break the trans movement will be it’s own flock maturing and becoming angrily vocal about the harm that was done to them under the guise of ‘affirmation’. The problem is by the time that starts happening on a large enough scale to matter, thousands of lives will have been sacrificed at the trans altar. ‘Trans affirming’ medical interventions will be looked back upon in the same way we today look upon 20th century medical lobotomies.
Many of them will have their identities so deeply entwined, so much into sunk-cost territory, that they will go to their graves thinking they were right. And there will always be a younger crowd that just dismisses detransitioners as olds who aren’t with the times. But I can’t help but think the spell will largely be broken by stories like TullipR’s
That is a horrifying story.
I do think it’s likely that, contra Mike, this was botched or performed ineptly. I don’t think the whole area is numb for most people, and the false vagina is supposed to work better than described.
I have heard various forms of incontinence are common side effects. I’d also heard about the internal-hair problem. So a lot of it is normal or common.
This person should get a lawyer and sue.
And, yeah, the old safeguards where you had to go through counseling and a long waiting time we’re there for a reason. Being essentially mutilated to somewhat appear as a member of the opposite sex is something that should be done almost never.
Nobody suggested that it’s numb for most people, but there’s no way of knowing, without reading the accounts of other men who have had this operation, that his experience is unique; and a blind sac constructed from the inverted skin from his penis/scrotum will never, ever function as a vagina except in one regard: if dilated several times a day for the rest of the man’s life, it could possibly be used by another man to penetrate him with his penis. Failure to dilate (which is actually needed to stretch the scar tissue) because of pain or any other reason, will result in the wound shrivelling up, leading to a sac which is too small for a penis.
See, this is what happens when women are regarded as merely castrated men with a ‘front hole’ for a penis to penetrate; men think that being castrated and having a hole means that they are women.
This paint-by-numbers knee-jerk skepticism routine drives me CRAZY. Based on WHAT do you think it’s likely that, contra Mike, this was botched or performed ineptly, Skeletor? Based on WHAT do you not think the whole area is numb for most people? Yes of course “the false vagina is supposed to work better than described” but that’s true of all consumer products – they’re all supposed to work perfectly; it’s called advertising. Just saying “Nu-uh” is pointless, and it belittles the outrage of this quackery.
Yeah, with OB on this one. I’ve got a strong stomach, but I couldn’t read the whole thread. It was far too upsetting This story is the tip of the iceberg, and as Ophelia writes, by the time the woke wake up, too many lives will have been ruined on the altar of mammon.
No weight loss advice for anorexics. No emetics for bulimics. No surgeries as a “cure” for mental anguish.
In the replies to TullipR’s harrowing personal account, Katy Montgomerie has chosen to show his class by… being a total wanker.
Regarding the surgery, patchy numbness is indicative of nerve damage, which is a risk in most plastic surgeries. It’s not ‘the process as designed’ per Mike Haubrich, but it is one of the most common side-effects iirc.