To convince the world
Hmmm. If I were a passer-by I’m not sure I would find that a very persuasive slogan.
I get the thinking, maybe…It’s about being defiant, unafraid, in our face, unashamed, bold, brassy, blunt, real. It’s a sort of imitation of feminism, in a way – feminism that said all along we’re not ladies and we’re not girls, we’re women, with all that that implies. It’s not a dainty business, being a woman – you try pushing an infant human being through a small hole in your body. Feminism said all along that we’re not asking, we’re telling; we’re not begging, we’re taking. We’re not pleading or coaxing or simpering or apologizing, we’re just demanding what’s ours. Feminism was often deliberately sweary and coarse. Maybe trans activism sees itself as doing the same thing.
But of course it doesn’t work if it’s men telling women to suck the men’s trans balls. It doesn’t work because it’s punching down, fairly literally. Women don’t rape men; men do rape women. Orders to suck someone’s balls are inescapably linked to rape. Trans activists with any brains should be able to figure that out. I’m forced to conclude, then, that these people are thick as two short planks.
Yeah, I was around for first wave feminism and subsequent iterations.
Maybe my memory is failing in old age, but I do not recall women ever demanding “Lick my pussy” or “Suck my tits” while they were fighting for their rights.
And, as far as insults go, I have never understood the homoeroticism of a straight man telling another man “Suck my cock”. Sure, you’re telling the other person to commit a homosexual act, but that also means you are submitting yourself to a homosexual act*. By impugning another’s sexuality, you also impugn your own.
*Nothing wrong with homosexual acts amongst consenting adults.
“Kiss my ass” has been a popular retort for ages, but it’s not sexual the way “suck my trans balls” is, at least not in my understanding. Expresses contempt without any real sexual meaning.
Yeah, early feminists were pretty brash and hard edged, sometimes arguably overly so, but the whole point was a small number of women fighting a massive entrenched establishment to gain fundamental human rights for all. There was no denigrating classes of people, no systemic calls to violence, no entrenching of the already pervasive societal pressure to conform. Quite the reverse in fact of what TRAs are doing, which is all about enforcing the existing gender stereotypes and claiming they women better than women do*.
*They do not.
Frankly, ‘suck my lady-dick’ was one of the slogans that made me go, “Wait, what?” when I was still a trans rights supporter. And as it, and other variations, have continued to propagate, I’ve only gotten more hardline. While I’m still inclined to use preferred names, at least, and have no particular issue to enforce clothing or similar gender protocols that have nothing to do with safety, that only applies to transwomen who actually are just trying to get along with their lives. Anyone issuing a rape-adjacent statement like this will never qualify as a ‘woman’ in my book, because no, women don’t say these things.
I know several women who are staunch trans allies and who have used the phrase “suck my lady dick” despite not having the required anatomy. It’s like it’s just words. I cannot understand it.
A lady here. As far as I can remember, the most unladylike things that I’ve ever said out loud to strangers are “Fuck off” and “Get out of my face”. (And in all cases, in response to street harassment by men.) I enjoy the thought of using the Simpsons quote “Go suck a Bible” in response to religious homophobia or anti-abortionism but have never thought of it in time.
You know what all three of those phrases have in common? They are ordering the person out of my affairs or personal space. Whereas demands to “suck my balls” or “suck my lady dick” are ordering the target into one’s personal space. This seems like a key distinction. In fact, if I imagine saying “Suck a Bible!” to someone it just doesn’t sound right, even though there isn’t a Bible in my personal space. The going away is such an important part of the demand.
Rev David Brindley: “I was around for first wave feminism…”
I thought that was the suffragettes and the feminism of the 1950s & 60s was 2nd wave feminism.
Jim, I stand corrected. I am old, but not that old.
Still, my point stands that those words are not words ever needed by feminists.