See also: blood into wine

So now the church is ordering people to forget all that pesky sciencey crap about human bodies and just focus on the soul believe Gender Dogma.

Church of England set to issue advice telling teachers to challenge ‘outdated terms’ around biological sex as critics argue new guidance is pushing gender ideology that a person’s sex is ‘assigned’ at birth

Church of England advice for teachers has been criticised for pushing the gender ideology that a person’s sex is ‘assigned’ at birth rather than a biological fact.

Guidance set to be issued to thousands of schools states that a transgender man is someone ‘who was assigned female at birth but identifies and lives as a man’, and a transgender woman ‘was assigned male at birth but identifies and lives as a woman’.

The statements are in the document Flourishing For All, which is backed by Justin Welby, Archbishop of Canterbury, and tells teachers to challenge ‘outdated terms’.

Outdated terms like “god” and “soul” and “sin” and “blasphemy” you mean?

About a million children attend 4,630 Anglican schools.

That random remark seems to imply that Welby’s “advice” is to Anglican schools as opposed to all schools, which you would think the Mail would say explicitly instead of hinting.

C of E chief education officer Nigel Genders presented the draft anti-bullying document, which is out for public consultation, at the General Synod on Monday.

Wait. Nigel who? Genders? Is this a joke?

He said it was in response to the Government’s trans guidance for schools and a review of NHS children’s gender services that found transgender treatments were based on ‘weak evidence’.

But Ms Marsh and Ms Davies-Arai said the guidelines actually conflicted with the Department for Education’s draft transgender guidance, which says pupils must not be taught about the ‘concept of gender identity’.

Oh not be taught. Oops! Our bad! Sorry!

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12 responses to “See also: blood into wine”

  1. Your Name's not Bruce? Avatar
    Your Name’s not Bruce?

    The statements are in the document Flourishing For All….

    That’s rich. Try “Flourishing For Some”, or “Flourishing For a Tiny Minority”, or “Lording it Over Everyone Else”, or “Give Me What I Want, or I’ll Kill Myself”, or “Do as We Say, Bigot”.

    Wait. I’ve got it: “Flourishing For Everyone But Girls”. Because that’s what it will be.

  2. twiliter Avatar

    The war on the Enlightenment rages on.

  3. rick shapiro Avatar

    What you need to understand is that Christians are, by definition, Cartesian dualists. And dualism is adjacent to the notion that a soul can be put into the wrong body. So, it’s not surprising that those denominations that are not wrapped up in fundementalist dominionism are prone to gender ideology.

    Where is Elizabeth Loftus now that we need her again.

  4. Alan Peakall Avatar

    YNnB: I would be just charmed by the retro-Blairite Flourishing for the many, not the few!

  5. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    rick – but if a soul can be put into the wrong body that means Mister God can make mistakes. I’d think god-botherers would be put off by that.

  6. rick shapiro Avatar

    Never underestimate the rationalizing power of the god botherers. Where else did we get the entire theological discipline of theidiocy.

  7. NightCrow Avatar

    What you need to understand is that Christians are, by definition, Cartesian dualists. And dualism is adjacent to the notion that a soul can be put into the wrong body. – rick shapiro @ #3

    “Dualists”? I do not think so. See for instance 1 Thessalonians 5:23:

    May the God of peace himself make you altogether holy, and may your breath and spirit and body be kept perfectly protected in the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. [My translation; emphasis added.]

    And no, I am not a Christian. But I do not think Christianity is best challenged by making inaccurate statements regarding mainstream Christian beliefs.

    I think Welby &co are simply jumping on a bandwagon – rather late. They may find that genderism’s hold on popular fantasy is starting to crumble. I hope so.

  8. Sackbut Avatar

    Re NightCrow @7

    I had not considered otherwise (that is, I too would have said that Christians are Cartesian dualists), and I thank you for pointing out how that might not be the case.

    I went searching for more information and found quite a few references. One was a helpful essay at Southern Evangelical Seminary and Bible College:

    Substance Dualism Is Not The Only Option For Christians

    This article and others clarify that many but (importantly!) not all Christians are Cartesian dualists; there are other ways to believe in a soul besides thinking the soul is a completely separate thing from the body.

    I would add that people who believe it’s possible to upload a “mind” into a computer are probably accurately described as Cartesian dualists, although probably less likely to be Christian.

    Again, thanks for the prompt.

  9. iknklast Avatar

    Most of the Christians I’ve known seem to be dualists, but not. They believe the soul is separate from the body, but they believe they will have their body again…younger, stronger, healthier, and prettier…in heaven. I presume the idea is that God will recreate the body, and your soul will hop in…or something.

    It seems to me that the concept of ensoulment of a fetus would require a certain dualism. I don’t know if anyone really believes that, or if it’s just a handy argument against abortion without having to think too hard.

  10. iknklast Avatar

    Opelia, my comment was put in moderation. Sorry. I just had to replace my computer and some of the stuff wasn’t copied correctly. (Geek Squad has a lot of mess to answer for; I’ll blame this on them too.)

  11. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    No problem. I tweaked your address.

  12. NightCrow Avatar

    Sackbut @ #8

    Thank you for your comments. I owe my knowledge of the Bible (which is fairly extensive) to my ‘fundamentalist’ Christian parents. I learned to interpret it critically from one of my Religious Education teachers at school, and later from a friend at university who was studying theology.