The real suicide figures were discussed inside

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Ophelia Benson

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The people behind yesterday’s conference:

The “show more” is just the source: (Dhejne 2011).

But wait.

…bother to investigate further.

WHAT?????

A 20-fold increase in suicides? And this has been kept secret all this time??

Hello, BBC, Guardian, NY Times, Washington Post – any comment?

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10 responses to “The real suicide figures were discussed inside”

  1. Mostly Cloudy Avatar
    Mostly Cloudy

    If this is correct, (a 20-fold increase in the suicide of young people with gender dysphoria AFTER they had what we have to call “Gender Affirmation Surgery”) then it’s a colossal scandal.

  2. Ophelia Benson Avatar
    Ophelia Benson

    Indeed.

  3. Mostly Cloudy Avatar
    Mostly Cloudy

    I believe this is the 2011 Cecilia Dhejne study mentioned in the Tweets:

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21364939/

  4. NightCrow Avatar
    NightCrow

    The paper cited is here: full text, legit open access. A pdf copy can be downloaded from Researchgate.

  5. Mike B Avatar
    Mike B

    This whole farrago will soon collapse, lawsuit by lawsuit.

  6. Mike B Avatar
    Mike B

    Holy moly . . .

    Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.

  7. Mostly Cloudy Avatar
    Mostly Cloudy

    Thanks, Nightcrow.

    The paper’s conclusions:

    Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.

    That’s not what the media told us, is it? “I Am Jazz”, “Butterfly”, all those Juno Dawson books for teenagers, endless “Jezebel” editorials, endless Verso Books articles by the likes of Juliet Jacques and Shon Faye, non-stop Owen Jones tweets….

  8. Nullius in Verba Avatar
    Nullius in Verba

    The problem is that they’ll always be able to fall back on minority stress, and popular media will be all too eager to buy it as an explanation, because it’s an unfalsifiable hypothesis. Bad outcomes are always just going to be seen as either the result of bigotry or the result of not taking pro-trans measures far enough. The classic “true Communism has never been tried” kind of No True Scotsman BS. When your policies don’t correlate with the desired results, simply claim this to be evidence that your policies just need to be implemented more widely and more thoroughly.

    For some things, this could actually be true. Risk pools, for instance, function more efficiently the more people buy in. For most things, though, this is just the Gambler’s Fallacy writ large.

  9. Nullius in Verba Avatar
    Nullius in Verba

    Another article on suicide rates: https://mentalhealth.bmj.com/content/27/1/e300940

  10. Blood Knight in Sour Armor Avatar
    Blood Knight in Sour Armor

    Might it alternatively be the case that anyone seeking being chopped up is twenty times more suicidal than people who *don’t* seek it? A healthy, normal person is hardly going to have such major elective surgery…

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