The CBC has got to be kidding.
CSIS warns that the ‘anti-gender movement’ poses a threat of ‘extreme violence’
Seriously? We’re not the ones shouting threats and posting images of guns and knives.
Canada’s intelligence agency is warning that extremists could “inspire and encourage” serious violence against the 2SLGBTQI+ community — a threat the Canadian Security Intelligence Service says almost certainly will continue over the coming year.
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“CSIS assesses that the violent threat posed by the anti-gender movement is almost certain to continue over the coming year and that violent actors may be inspired by the University of Waterloo attack to carry out their own extreme violence against the 2SLGBTQI+ community or against other targets they view as representing the gender ideology ‘agenda,’” said CSIS spokesperson Eric Balsam in an email to CBC News.
It’s so DARVO it leaves me breathless.
What was the U of Waterloo attack?
A former University of Waterloo student accused of attacking a gender-studies class with a knife last summer — sending an associate professor and two students to hospital — now faces 11 terrorism charges.
And that means lots more will do the same? Regardless of the fact that the people of Gender Critical really don’t resort to threats and bullying in the way people like India Willoughby do?
Balsam said that while violent rhetoric does not always lead to violence, “the ecosystem of violent rhetoric within the anti-gender movement, compounded with other extreme worldviews, can lead to serious violence.”
Stinking liar. There is no “ecosystem of violent rhetoric within the anti-gender movement.” There is such an ecosystem within the pro-gender movement. See for example Fred[a] Wallace of “punch a terf in the fucking face” fame.
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It’s not like I hang out in the sewer of the internet, but I’ll call bullshit on this for one reason. Every now and then gender critical feminists post screenshots of the deluge of abuse and threats they receive. It’s current, ongoing, and a veritable firehose. The other side never responds with ‘oh yeah, look what’s coming at us from you lot!’ and presents a similar torrent. Not even a trickle. The best examples of violence they seem to manage is someone saying a dress and head tilt doesn’t make you a woman. Now maybe in the depths of the far right anti-gay movement you’ll find such rhetoric, but then it would be deeply dishonest to label that as the ‘anti-gender movement.’
Well, this is the result of media companies not being able to count higher than 2. If there are three ‘sides’ or more, then you just boil them down to two, so that you can pick a side more easily (see also: anything to do with the Middle East). In this case, they’ve merged DeSantis and the Proud Boys with JKR and Kathleen Stock, and then called that resulting frankenmonster “gender critical”, which clearly is opposed, perforce, to the 2SQUILTBAGers. Forced teaming for all, and in every way, the feminists lose out.
Rob@1: You ninja’ed me, but your last line is exactly what I’m saying they’re doing–fusing the far-right nutjobs with feminists so that they can dismiss both with the same ease.
Pffft. That’s just a) passionate rhetoric; b) completely justified self defence; c) “just joking” or “ironic”; in other words, good, clean, healthy fun; d) taken out of context. Choose whichever one is most expedient to the particular threatener.
I daresay that those of us posting here on B&W would all be branded as “extremists” in light of the inflated threat vocabulary of transactivists. If misgendering is “violence,” questioning gender identity is “denying their right to exist,” and opposition and resistance to their demands is plotting “trans genocide,” then we are all guilty. Use our words against us; it’s all here. Low-hanging fruit ripe for the picking. Just a few pseudonyms to fugure out and you’re done. Take us away.
We’re as “guilty” of these things as feminist philosophical critiques of gender ideology are implicated in the murder (by men) of Brazillian trans-identified sex workers. There’s an undeniable, inevitable, straight-line connection between essays defending women’s rights and spaces and the brutal slaughter of thousands upon thousands of trans identified males happening around us every day, year in, year out. Just look around; trans folk are being banned from sports; they’re denied any and all medical care; they’re thrown out of their jobs and homes. They’re being rounded up as we speak, carted off to camps, never to be heard from again. It’s
JUST LIKE THE JEWS IN NAZI GERMANY(oops, Jews are the bad guys now, right?) Why isn’t CSIS investigating all of that?I wonder; in the current climate of captured government agencies, would an attack on a feminist gathering by a knife-wielding trans activist result in terrororism charges? Or would it be passed off as a “lone wolf” attack that could be blamed on the feminists themselves?
But Ophelia, denial that such a thing exists is tantamount to admiting that it does.
There must such an ecosystem, or CSIS wouldn’t be interested in it. It’s a self-fulfilling prophesy, the resources being
squandered byearmarked for will bear fruit of some kind, however vapourous and insubstantial. If a society believes in witchcraft, witches will be found. If not found, they will be created.CSIS might declare victory by claiming to have “prevented” any number of attacks. They will be tied to the “transphobic dogwhistles” of the mildest sorts of criticism or questioning, because even the mildest criticism, the simplest presentation of the truth of the immutible human sex binary is an unorgiveable “incitement” that cannot be allowed to stand. Such shocking ideas are branded as right-wing bigotry by transactivists in an attempt to shut down debate and intimidate any who would speak such heresy. CSIS is now part of the Inquisition; if they are blind to the rhetorical asymmetry between transactivists and those women who dare say “No” to their demands, then they have joined the side of the genderists and will act on their suggestions. In fact , through this announcement, they already are.
Never mind the steady pushes against women’s rights from transactivists (Ogre even got a fucking medal for pretty much just that), never mind the men put into women’s prisons, the smearing of “watchful waiting” as “conversion therapy.” If “our side” was doing all of this to the “other side,” then CSIS might have something to investigate. But that’s not happening, and those examples of trans incursion on women’s rights are all state sanctioned actions. Perhaps CSIS is being put on the case precisely because of this resistance to what is essentially government policy. Would they have gone casting around on their own to find this as a subject of investigation, or were they pointed in that direction by their political masters? Are there no more important dangers and threats to the country that their time and effort could be more usefully deployed? Would they have made this sort of pre-emptive well-poisoning public announcement without permission? I have my doubts.
And if there is anti-trans violence, it won’t be because of the feminist critique of trans “rights.” Violent right wing extremists have their own agendas, and just because they agree with us that the sky is blue and water is wet, that doesn’t make us complicit with or the inspiration of whatever actions they take. We’re not telling anyone to “Punch transwomen in the fucking mouth.” You can’t even read it between the lines. They’re the ones demonizing fair, principled opposition to their demands, refusing open and honest debate. They’re the ones who hound people out of their jobs for refusing to aquiesce to trans orthodoxy. And now they’re the ones wielding the power of the state intelligence security aparatus. Welcome to Lysenkoism 2.0, the Trans Edition.
Maybe I’m awfulizing for no good reason, exhibiting an unreasonable combination of political hypochondria and histrionics. Indeed, putting all this out there makes me sound like I’ve become some kind of raving, right-wing conspiracy nut, even to myself. But I’ve stood still while much of the Left (of which I have counted myself among) has jumped of a fucking cliff, leaving me politically homeless. I would only ever vote Conservative if all the other alternatives were even farther to the right than they are, but all of the parties I normally support have surrendered to trans dogma. The lunatics haven’t taken over the asylum yet, but they’re being asked to advise on policy; delusional fantasies are accepted as Gospel truth, and sanity is being viewed with increasing suspicion and distrust.
I fear, at some point, I will be left muttering beneath my breath, “Eppur si muove.”
CSIS seems a nice place to work (sarcasm): CSIS to hire impartial reviewer as part of human rights settlement with Black officer .
@5, I’m sure the response to a complaint from a black woman and allegations around rape and harassment will be to decide that trans women need much more support and enablement. That’ll fix everything.
How do they know she’s Black? She might be Politically White. They should get her to fill out a survey to see just where her views fit in the scheme of things. She’s probably not nearly as “Black” as most superficially White-looking TiMs. Not nearly as female either.
Someone attacking a gender studies class doesn’t necessarily mean anti-trans. A lot of people conflate those with women’s studies (and I think they once were). It could be an anti-feminist attack, but as usual, the trans lobby has determined it must be anti-trans, because I imagine the class focused heavily on trans issues.
There’s an account of the attack here, taken down from one of the students who witnessed it, James Chow:
The professor who was attacked and wounded is a woman. Some of the students put up a bit of a fight, trying to protect their professor, and that is presumably how two of them came to be injured.
Quite possibly. But it might have been motivated primarily or at least partly by misogyny. The philosophy of gender, after all, is not by any means purely concerned with transgender issues. At any rate I feel it is significant that the lecturer he attacked was a woman.
More on CSIS and rape. Warning: strong stomach needed.
Imagine the furor if the officer in question had misgendered a colleague; rape, not so much.
The fact that there were “warnings,” and more than one female officer was attacked means the organization did cover it up. Quelle suprise.
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