Used as a proxy

The British Journal of Medicine.

Yes, the British Journal of Medicine.

MEDICINE.

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14 responses to “Used as a proxy”

  1. GW Avatar

    In other words, instead of boxes on a form “F” / “M”, there should be a question: ‘List a number of different body parts that you have. Examples: Penis, ears, breasts, vulva, feet, testes, anus, heart, spleen, uterus…”

  2. J.A. Avatar

    As if sex isn’t an important factor for many diseases that affect parts of the body that males and females have in common, like arthritis (affects women more) and heart disease (affects men more).

  3. What a Maroon Avatar
    What a Maroon

    “What is your testosterone/estradiol ratio?”

    I mean, surely everyone knows that.

  4. Roj Blake Avatar

    Listed as one of three author affiliations:

    Transgender Cancer Patient Project, Martinez, CA, USA

    Bias much?

  5. Skeletor Avatar

    This seems reasonable to me. It says the questions are harmful if used as a proxy for hormone levels if knowing the hormone levels is important when determining a treatment. It doesn’t say they’re always harmful.

    (Although what kind of quack would not check actual hormone levels?)

  6. GW Avatar

    “What is your testosterone/estradiol ratio?”

    Is it constant throughout life, or is it something that I need to check each morning? (I have no idea.)

  7. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    It says “sex assigned at birth.” No, that’s not “reasonable.”

  8. GW Avatar

    There are presumably people alive today that were assigned a sex shortly after birth. When was this practice being done to people with intersex conditions? 1960s? Though I don’t know how widespread it was.

  9. iknklast Avatar

    GW, that is extremely rare, somewhere in the range of 0.02% and 0.05%. That is not enough to make that question reasonable.

  10. iknklast Avatar

    Ophelia, I made a comment that isn’t showing. I might have hit the wrong email again, because for some reason clearing cookies did not make the other ones go away. Thanks.

  11. What a Maroon Avatar
    What a Maroon

    Is it constant throughout life, or is it something that I need to check each morning? (I have no idea.)

    I have no idea either, which is the point. Everyone over the age of three knows their sex, but you can’t expect everyone to know all the concomitant medical implications. Hell, I only learned about “testosterone/estradiol ratio” yesterday thanks to Dr. Google. I have to trust my doctor to know what’s normal, and whether an abnormal reading would indicate a problem (or if it’s even something worth measuring).

    Sex, like age, is an important data point for doctors. Gender or gender identification or whatever, not so much.

  12. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    iknklast, it’s not showing on the dashboard either, so I’m afraid it’s just lost.

  13. iknklast Avatar

    It showed up, mysteriously. Guess it was just a glitch. I’m having a lot of those right now. I can’t access the classes I’m supposed to be teaching, which makes it hard to teach them.

  14. Michael Haubrich Avatar
    Michael Haubrich

    I don’t have a subscription, and not really interested in paying the $37 to read the article, but the Rapid Responses are open with no paywall.

    https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1261/rapid-responses

    Healthcare cannot collectively discard words for the two biological sexes. Awareness of the importance of clinical research into sex differences in medicine, especially for the female sex[9], has just been highlighted by the pandemic. How would such work be done if the sexes cannot be named?

    Clear language on sex is vital in medicine, science, and public health education.

    Sara Dahlen

    MSc Student, Bioethics and Society

    King’s College London

    London