Just stop

Oh honestly. Putting the substance aside for the moment, this sentimental slush has never been relentlessly deployed this way for any other subordinated group. No, trans people en masse don’t “deserve” love – nobody does. It’s not true and it’s extremely ick. It’s a dopy change of subject. Campaigning for equal rights is not the same thing as campaigning for love and cuddles and a teddy bear.

If you think about it for one second it becomes obvious – a campaign for human rights can’t afford to attach it to a demand for universal love, because universal love of huge populations is a demand that’s impossible to meet. If the human rights depend on love then they become unobtainable. Rights have nothing to do with love. They are independent of love. They have to be, because they have to apply across the board, without regard to how we feel about the niceness or otherwise of the people at issue. Prisoners have rights. Murderers have rights. Love is not the issue.

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8 responses to “Just stop”

  1. guest Avatar

    I think when they write ‘deserve love’ they don’t mean that we’re supposed to love them but rather that they ‘deserve’ to be able to have loving relationships and families. As with everything else in the ‘trans’ movement, they’ve stolen the phrase and idea from the campaign for another marginalised group, gay people.

  2. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Hmmmm. I don’t think so. I don’t think it’s as thoughtful as that. I think it’s just the usual sentimental sludge that accompanies all pro-trans ideology. The rhetoric around this particular “activism” is strikingly sentimental and mawkish. I would love to know why that is.

    Your interpretation fits though, and I can believe that some people mean it that way.

  3. Athel Cornish-Bowden Avatar
    Athel Cornish-Bowden

    We need a proper debate in Parliament on them, and what they mean for our trans constituents.

    And what about your vastly more numerous constituents who are real women? Do they not count?

  4. Omar Avatar

    guest:

    I think when they write ‘deserve love’ they don’t mean that we’re supposed to love them but rather that they ‘deserve’ to be able to have loving relationships and families.

    With respect, I disagree. If that was true, I’m sure a significant number if not all of them would have said just that.

    In any country, the transsexuals are a tiny percentage of the population, but they punch well above their weight politically. In that domain,most of them are pretty skilled operators. They know exactly what they are saying and doing.

    Minorities can change whole societies. See https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/writers/breitman/1964/xx/minority.htm

  5. Lady Mondegreen Avatar
    Lady Mondegreen

    Putting the substance aside for the moment, this sentimental slush has never been relentlessly deployed this way for any other subordinated group

    YES. I never stop marvelling at this.

    The rhetoric around this particular “activism” is strikingly sentimental and mawkish. I would love to know why that is.

    I think it’s because they don’t really have much else. And to give the devil his due, appeals to emotion work, especially on the gullible and the well-meaning.

    The Trans Propaganda Playbook:

    1) Appeals to emotion (“Trans people deserve love” “Trans Day of Remembrance”)

    2) Obfuscation (“Social constructs!” “Intersex” “The Genderbread Person”)

    3) Appeals to misunderstood, misrepresented, or dodgy science

    (“Biologists say sex is a spectrum!” “Girl’s brain in a boy’s body!” “Clownfish!” “Did we mention intersex?”)

    4) Bullying

  6. maddog1129 Avatar

    We need a proper debate in Parliament on them [the new EHRC rules], and what they mean for our trans constituents.

    I’ll tell you what they mean for your “trans constitients”: the same thing that it means for all your other constituents as well. That is, dress however you please. Be as genderful as ever you want in your appearance, your presentation, and your choice of medications and elective plastic surgery. You do you. But, when it comes to anything classified by sex, you just use the facilities for your sex. You know, like EVERYBODY did 15 or 20 years ago. It wasn’t a problem then, and it shouldn’t be a problem now. Everyone knows full well what sex they are. Just stick to the things set aside for your sex. Simple. Easy peasy.

  7. Bjarte Foshaug Avatar
    Bjarte Foshaug

    The Trans Propaganda Playbook:

    1) Appeals to emotion (“Trans people deserve love” “Trans Day of Remembrance”)

    2) Obfuscation (“Social constructs!” “Intersex” “The Genderbread Person”)

    3) Appeals to misunderstood, misrepresented, or dodgy science

    (“Biologists say sex is a spectrum!” “Girl’s brain in a boy’s body!” “Clownfish!” “Did we mention intersex?”)

    4) Bullying

    To which I would add:

    5) Tribalism (“It’s the right ‘leftist’/‘progressive’/‘feminist’ thing to do”)

    6) False dichotomies (“If you’re not with us, you’re with the MAGA crowd”)

    7) Word-magic/bad puns (“If we call TIMs by the same name as biological females, they magically become the same kind of people, and must therefore be given access to all the same spaces”)

    8) Gaslighting/DARVO (“Isn’t it awful how that poor trans woman with her lady-cock was made to feel unwelcome in the women’s changing room?”)

    9) Thought-terminating cliches (“Trans women are women!”, “Trans men are men!”, “Non-binary identities are valid!”, “Trans rights are human rights!”, “the right side of history”)

    10) Sound volume/endless repetition (TWAW! TWAW! TWAW! TWAW! TWAW! TWAW! TWAW! TWAW! TWAW! TWAW! TWAW! TWAW! TWAW!!!!!!)

    11) Appropriation/forced teaming (“LGBTQ…”, claiming monopoly on “non-white feminism”, “Queers for Palestine”)

    12) Appeals to what is best left unspecified (the definition of “woman” or “gender”, what is meant by “trans rights”, “trans healthcare” etc.)

    13) The gender of the gaps (“The biological sex model doesn’t meet this impossible standard, therefore the gender identity model gets to claim victory for free without meeting any standard at all”)

  8. Lady Mondegreen Avatar
    Lady Mondegreen

    Ooh, Bjarte, “The gender of the gaps” — good one.

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