All the rights
The stars of Activism are really on fire today. Not entirely in a good sense.
Spaces set aside for other people aren’t a “right.” Puberty blockers and elective amputations aren’t “health care.” “Legal protections” that endanger other people aren’t “protections.”
He summoned the troops.
Well, really snarky, at least.
I’m told that Dillahunty responded to Dawkins as follows:
Yeah.
I tried to talk to Matt about this (well, he’d just accused Nyah Putzo of being a bigot for no reason I could see and I asked him about it). After a couple of slightly deranged replies he issued forth A Statement:
So that didn’t go well. I assume I’m either “gender critical bigot” or “twitter troll”, because I’m pretty sure I didn’t do that last thing.
The type of women who trans ‘women’ aspire to be and are trying to pass themselves off as are not feminists. The stereotypes and mocking imitations make this obvious. For Montgomerie to claim to be a feminist is absurd. Including Dawkins with “misogynistic, anti-feminist men” includes him the with trans ‘women’ who are misogynistic and anti-feminist. He doesn’t fit the description. Is it possible to actually be a feminist and not be gender critical? I think not. Feminism is based on biological reality. Trans ‘feminism’ is no feminism at all, it’s quite the opposite.
No version or wave of feminism could possibly described as trying to help men become women, it’s simply not what feminism is about. So tired of these morons getting it wrong.
Ima one up you, twiliter. If you’re not GC you’re not really an atheist. Because you believe in the new gender religion and the magical gender soul.
Dillahunty is a pain.
Then he blocked me.
Monty called Dawkins a “science denier”, too.
Their big goal is to get themselves, in the eyes of those they think count, out of the category ‘men who wish they had been born women’ and into the category ‘women.’ That includes the most important right to use womens’ washrooms and separate facilities. As mainstream feminism opposes this, mainstream feminism becomes the enemy.
But they have a way out: trade in their car on a campervan, rest-room equipped, and drive everywhere in that. Parking might be a problem at times, but then again, life wasn’t meant to be easy.
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https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Malcolm_Fraser
Yeah, pronouns + atheism = cognitive dissonance, better known as hypocrisy.
You’d be amazed how many of my stories end like that.
They don’t like dead spots in their echo chambers.
I could describe Dawkins in many ways, some flattering and some not. Science denier was not on either list. not in the top 10,000.
This was a Very Bad Day for gender identitarians.
BRB, off to buy popcorn.
The bugle has been sounded! I look forward to PZ’s nasty, backbiting drivel any day now.
Well he walked up to me
And he asked me if I wanted to trans
He looked kind of weird
And so I said I might give it a miss
When he transed he held pouted so right
And when he read my tweets that night
All the GC Femmes were shining bright
And then he blocked me
He blocked me in a way that I’ve never been blocked before
Blocked me In a way that he can block me forever more
There is only one trans “right” being asserted by activists, and that is the “right” to have everyone else in the world affirm their particular religious beliefs, at all times and in all places.
The incoming government of Germany has recently signed an agreement in principle on their governing priorities, which must now be referred to the coalition parties at large for approval before that government can be put into effect. When the agreement is approved, the measures within it will not automatically become law, but they provide a roadmap for what the government wishes to accomplish during its reign.
Many of the proposals are undoubtedly an improvement over the status quo; in particular, simplifications to immigration and legalisation of cannabis would materially improve the lives of millions of German residents, if and when these come into force before the next election.
More neutral, or at least less obviously good, are a few economic policies on offer; in particular, opening the German retirement fund to market speculation (supposedly with the equivalent of mutual funds in the US, though possibly a bait-and-switch to allow stock traders access to retirement funds for their individual bets) and a philosophy of austerity-for-all-seasons could have dramatic medium- and long-term negative consequences for the German and thereby the European economy.
But, more contentiously, the government proposes to bring in a raft of “trans rights” which ultimately amount to the reimposition of blasphemy codes in public and private life. As the incoming coalition is left-leaning, they all seem to have drunk deeply of trans activist dogma, at least their various youth wings. In particular, they are promising to enact some form of Self-ID (possibly with no-questions-asked statutory insurance coverage of any cosmetic procedures under the umbrella of “gender medicine”), along with a proposed fine of up to 2,500 Euros for instances of “misgendering” people.
Given the fervour of adherence to trans dogma and the promise of liberation and meaning it provides to its adherents, it is a virtual certainty that these measures will remain in the coalition agreement, and the chances are quite high that they will be among the first implemented by the new regime. Trans activists online are lustily promising to scour the timelines of suspected TERFs in search for wrong-think which they can then report in order to impose this fine, and some trans activists (with the barest cover of irony) are welcoming the construction of an anti-TERF “police state”.
I do not believe that the people proposing these measures have thought through the societal implications of them, nor of the reaction they are likely to engender across the voting public. The most likely danger is that these young activists accomplish this policy of compelling the speech they approve of and forbidding the speech they disapprove of with harsh penalties, and when enough people outside of the core of Berlin come into contact with these policies, they generate enough scandal to bring down the government and force a new election.
It could very soon be a reality in Germany, at least for a time, that such questions as drove Ophelia from FreeThoughtBlogs are no longer matters of philosophy, or interpersonal comity, or even personal politics; being asked “Meinen Sie, dass Transfrauen Frauen sind, ja oder nein?”, on the Internet or on the street or in the privacy of your own home, could well come with a hefty financial penalty for offering a negative answer, regardless of what you actually believe.
Trannish Inquisition, indeed.
I’m sorry to hear that, Der Durchwanderer.
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Jeezus.
Thank you, Mr. Montgomerie, for coming right out and broadcasting on Twitter what many of your fellow men-claiming-to-be-women have been denying – that your movement is all about removing women’s sex-based rights. When Richard Dawkins, of all men, is on the side of women in this fight, it’s obvious that you are extreme MRAs and are not fighting for any rights you don’t already have, but for the obliteration of rights for women.
No previous rights movement wanted to take rights away from other people.
I’m really sorry, Der Durchwanderer. That sounds awful. We got self-ID sneaked in under the cover of marriage equality, but at least no-one thought at the time of making blasphemy laws about it.
As night follows day:
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2021/11/30/who-deserves-equality-and-protection/
Sorry, latsot. Thanks for the link, but I haven’t read Pharyngula in years and I’m not about to start again. It’s a shame, because Pharyngula was one of the atheist sites which helped me out of religion; I’m not about to follow it back in.
Oh MERCY, tigger, I wouldn’t expect you or anyone to read it.
I should have explained, but I was too tired. It’s PZ’s inevitable complaint about Dawkins.