To keep our perspective on this

Finally, a non-Fox-adjacent source: Newsweek:

Several parents have demanded that Loudoun County school board’s superintendent resign over allegations that the school district covered up two sexual assaults alleged to have occurred on school grounds.

In an interview with The Daily Wire, Scott Smith—a father who was arrested at a previous Loudoun County School Board meeting on June 22 after a debate over a draft policy on transgender and nonbinary students’ rights escalated— alleged that his daughter was sexually assaulted at Stone Bridge High School by a student allegedly dressed with a skirt on May 28.

During the June 22 meeting in which Smith was arrested after being dragged out, superintendent Scott Ziegler dismissed any concerns about assaults on school grounds allegedly committed by transgender students.

That’s not necessarily what the allegation is. The point is not that the alleged rapist is trans, the point is that a policy that allows male people to use the toilets meant for female people is a gift to rapists. The point is that the female people who need those segregated toilets don’t know who is trans and who isn’t, and that they shouldn’t have to risk it or worry about it.

“To my knowledge, we don’t have any record of assaults occurring in our restrooms,” he said.

Which was a big honking lie.

“I think it’s important to keep our perspective on this, we’ve heard it several times tonight from our public speakers, but the predator transgender student or person simply does not exist.”

Again: not the point. The predator student doesn’t need to be trans, the problem is the freedom to bounce into the girls toilets because skirt.

Five months later, another alleged sexual assault by the same teenager took place at Broad Run High School in October.

During Tuesday’s meeting, a number of parents expressed their concerns over the alleged assaults while calling for superintendent Scott Ziegler to stand down.

“How do you expect parents across this county to drop off their kids and entrust you all to keep them safe when you’ve shown on more than one occasion you are not up for the job,” Monica Sadeghi said, via 7News On Your Side.

“When the Catholic Church passed predator priest from parish to parish the walls came eventually crashing down on them. And they were finally held accountable for the abuse. When is doctor Ziegler and this board going to be held accountable?” added Theresa Lieberman.

It’s the Catholic church all over again.

Smith told The Daily Wire that the suspect raped his daughter in the girl’s bathroom at Stone Bridge High School in Ashburn.

He alleges the student took advantage of the school’s Policy 8040, which was passed in August to allow students to use their name and gender pronouns, and permit “gender-expansive and transgender students” to use school facilities such as locker rooms and bathrooms that correspond to their “consistently asserted gender identity.”

That can’t be right. The (alleged) Stone Bridge rape happened in May, which is before August, when the school’s policy was passed. The student can’t have taken advantage of a policy passed in August to commit a rape in May. It’s part of the horror of this story that the school board passed the policy after the rape. Months after it.

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12 responses to “To keep our perspective on this”

  1. iknklast Avatar

    I do think it is debatable whether the Catholic Church has really been held to account. They’ve been publicized and publicly humiliated, and a lot of people have left the church over it, but the edifice has not crashed down, and they still cover up as much as possible.

    I hope we can do a better job of bringing the trans policies under control quickly.

  2. Sastra Avatar

    It won’t matter either way.

    1.) Boys Who Aren’t Trans Assault Girls By Pretending To Be Trans

    “It’s not fair to penalize one group for what another group does. You can’t blame Transgirls for this.”

    2.) Boys Who Are Trans Assault Girls

    “We’re talking about girls here, and there have always been certain girls who get violent. If a black girl assaulted a white girl, we wouldn’t bring back segregated toilets.”

    As long as advocates either believe or want to believe that boys who identify as girls ARE REAL GIRLS there is no amount of abuse, assault, harassment, or intimidation which will move them one iota.

  3. What a Maroon Avatar
    What a Maroon

    Here’s the Washington Post story. No mention of the assault happening in the rest room, or of the assailant wearing a skirt.

    There’s also this:

    Authorities said in the statement that on July 8, a 14-year-old male was arrested in the case and charged in juvenile court with two counts of forcible sodomy.

    In the statement, the sheriff’s office said it did not report the incident in a news release at the time of the arrest because “the suspect and victim were familiar with each other, the investigation was complex, and a public announcement had the potential to identify a juvenile victim.”

    So, I dunno. Right wingers lying about the details of an attack to further their agenda, or left wingers hiding those details to further their agenda? Either seems plausible.

  4. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    What right wing agenda are you seeing here?

  5. southwest88 Avatar

    Saw a youtube video of the father appearing on Fox News — he claims he was told that he should “keep quiet” if he wanted the prosecutor to prosecute the young man who attacked the young woman. Of course, there was no interviewer assisted picking to get all the details so I am not sure who told him to keep quiet and under what circumstances.

    So we are left unclear whether the prosecutor simply did not want to case tainted with lots of publicity that the defendant could whine about or if the prosecutor was strong arming the Dad to shut up with the threat being the rapist would not be prosecuted at all.

    And now it is alleged that the same young man attacked another girl at another school. Were the girls at that school warned that a male student charged with rape already was going to be in the girl’s facilities at their school? Guess the lawsuits will fly from this one. The Board should resign, definitely, but maybe the lawsuits are what will bring real change and sanity back.

  6. What a Maroon Avatar
    What a Maroon

    There’s a close statewide election going on here in Virginia, and one of the issues that the (Trump-lite) Republican candidate is running on is education. He mostly talks about CRT, but any issue involving wokism gone amok plays into the Republicans hands, including a girl being sexually assaulted in a bathroom by a boy in a skirt.

    So far, the only sites I’ve seen that have reported those details are right-wing sites; the Post reports on the assault, but doesn’t mention where it happened or any details about the boy. It also mentions that the police were informed immediately. The fact that it’s only the right-wing sites reporting those details seems fishy to me. So what I’m suggesting is that it’s possible that someone on the right invented those details as a way to capitalize on a horrific crime.

  7. What a Maroon Avatar
    What a Maroon

    To be clear, I’m not saying I agree with the school board on the bathroom policy, and I’m not casting doubt on the girls’ stories of being raped. I just trust the Washington Post more than Fox News.

  8. Sackbut Avatar

    That can’t be right. The (alleged) Stone Bridge rape happened in May, which is before August, when the school’s policy was passed. The student can’t have taken advantage of a policy passed in August to commit a rape in May. It’s part of the horror of this story that the school board passed the policy after the rape. Months after it.

    The assault took place on May 28. The school board hearing, at which Scott Smith spoke, was on June 22, and was in part about the draft transgender/non-binary policy. It appears there was much argument about the policy, part of which was Smith speaking out about his daughter’s rape. I’m sure that in the context of a hearing about a proposed policy that it was clear, to Smith and to others, that the proposed policy had not been passed and was not yet in effect. Perhaps Smith was using this recent example as a warning of what might continue to happen if the policy were adopted. Perhaps he misspoke, perhaps he was misinterpreted.

  9. Papito Avatar

    This is absolutely horrific, and I don’t care if the dad is a dyed-in-the-wool MAGA hatted Foxwatcher. His daughter got raped. Two months later, the boy was arrested, and then he was let out, and then another girl got raped by the same boy. The school, meanwhile, carried on as if nothing.

    The Sheriff’s Office has some details that nobody should be able to wave away:

    https://sheriff.loudoun.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=7037

    There has been misinformation circulating regarding an investigation into a reported sexual assault that occurred on May 28, 2021, at Stone Bridge High School in Ashburn, VA. Due to exclusions under the Virginia Code regarding disclosure of juvenile reports and the fact the case is pending court proceedings, the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office (LCSO) is limited as to what information can be released.

    On May 28, 2021, an LCSO School Resource Officer was notified by Stone Bridge High School staff of a possible sexual assault. A thorough investigation and evidentiary analysis was conducted over the course of several weeks by the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office Special Victims Unit.

    Once the elements of a crime were determined, on July 8, 2021, a 14-year-old male was arrested in the case with two counts of forcible sodomy.

    Following the arrest on July 8, 2021, the judicial process was turned over to the Loudoun County Commonwealth’s Attorney’s Office to determine bail, or in the case of a juvenile, the continuance of detention or other legal restrictions set forth as part of court proceedings in the Loudoun County Juvenile and Domestic Relations District Court.

    As stated in both the current and former Memorandum of Understanding between the LCSO and Loudoun County Public Schools (LCPS), the Loudoun Sheriff’s Office is not involved in school discipline (nor the placement of students). Nevertheless, the LCSO works closely with school officials throughout all criminal investigations.

    The October 6, 2021 incident at Broad Run High School did not involve complex circumstances, the arrest was immediate, and the arrest was reported to the community as information released was unlikely to disclose the identity of the victim. However, the May 28, 2021 investigation was different in that the suspect and victim were familiar with each other, the investigation was complex, and a public announcement had the potential to identify a juvenile victim.

    The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office remains committed to the safety of all students and will investigate all incidents reported by Loudoun County Public Schools to the fullest extent of the law.

    Further information regarding the identity of a juvenile suspect is excluded from disclosure pursuant to Virginia Code §16.1-301 and criminal history information is exempt under Virginia Code §19.2-389.

    Not noted by the Sheriff’s Department, but alleged by the father in the Daily Mail story, the school tried to hide the fact this was a rape and tried to keep the dad from telling the police.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10083783/Loudoun-County-father-arrested-school-meeting-says-daughter-raped-boy-girls-bathroom.html

    On the day of the incident, Smith says the school told him to come to the campus because his daughter had been physically assaulted. They did not say she had been sexually assaulted.

    Once he got there, he says school staff told him they would handle it internally, choosing not to call the police for an as-yet unexplained reason.

    He was enraged by the decision and challenged them on it. The school board then did call the police but to report Smith, not the boy, for making a scene.

    ‘I went nuts. I called the principal a p****. Six cop cars showed up like a f****** SWAT team,’ he said.

    The school’s principal sent out an alert that day warning parents of what had happened involving Smith, but it said nothing of the sexual assault allegations in the bathroom.

    It’s unclear exactly what happened next but Smith ended up at the hospital with his daughter.

    There, they told doctors what happened and a rape kit was performed.

    ‘Thank God that I drew enough attention to it, without getting arrested, that we got an escort to the hospital and they administered a rape kit that night,’ he said.

    The rape kit verified his daughter’s claim so they took it to the police and a case was opened.

    Then, a month later, when he showed up at the school board meeting, the superintendent lied to his face.

    At the meeting on June 22, Loudoun County School Superintendent Scott Ziegler said the school had never had any form of incident inside a bathroom or locker room involving a transgender child.

    ‘To my knowledge, we don’t have any record of assaults occurring in our restrooms,’ he said first.

    He went on to quote Time magazine research that he said disproved the notion transgender kids might sexually attack cisgender kids, and said: ‘I think it’s important to keep our perspective on this, we’ve heard it several times tonight from our public speakers but the predator transgender student or person simply does not exist.’

    Yes, this goon Scott Ziegler quoted Time magazine at him to chasten him for his harmful ideas. Theoretical bullshit spouted at the father of a child who was brutalized.

    This father had a right to all the anger he wanted to express then. The absolute failure of this school, its principal, and its superintendent to do their most fundamental job in protecting the safety of his child must have consequences.

  10. Holms Avatar

    That’s not necessarily what the allegation is. The point is not that the alleged rapist is trans, the point is that a policy that allows male people to use the toilets meant for female people is a gift to rapists. The point is that the female people who need those segregated toilets don’t know who is trans and who isn’t, and that they shouldn’t have to risk it or worry about it.

    A slight tangent, but this is standard operating procedure for any gender theory apologist. If a trans person is attacked, criticised, charged, barred entry, etc. etc. ad nauseum, the TRA will claim that this took place specifically due to the person being trans. I am reminded of a conversation with Silentbob I think, in which he presented a list of trans people murdered in the last year. He claimed that they were all murdered specifically for being trans, and totally ignored the fact that every name but one (out of twenty seven I think) on the list was accompanied by a photo showing the person to be black or Hispanic.

    I pointed this out, reminded him that black males are the most murdered demographic in USA, and made the suggestion that this list was far more indicative of the people being the victims of racism rather than transphobia. To no avail. These people were trans and that alone was evidence that they were murdered for being trans.

    No explanation was given for the visible racial disparity in murdered trans people.

  11. iknklast Avatar

    He claimed that they were all murdered specifically for being trans, and totally ignored the fact that every name but one (out of twenty seven I think) on the list was accompanied by a photo showing the person to be black or Hispanic.

    He also totally ignored the reality that this is far fewer, in both numbers and percentages, than the women murdered during the same period, many of them not specifically for being women, but because they were women, women that made men angry, women that men wanted to hurt or humiliate, women that didn’t know their place, or women that did. Domestic violence and stranger violence both kill a lot of women, but few, if any, TAs will acknowledge that being a woman (especially a black woman, but no women are immune) poses a much greater threat of violence and murder than being trans.

  12. Karen the chemist Avatar
    Karen the chemist

    from the OP:

    “To my knowledge, we don’t have any record of assaults occurring in our restrooms,” he said.

    said by the superintendent.

    Heard on the news this morning that something very similar to that was said by a school official in Madison, WI. It was along the lines of: sexual assault(s) do/did not occur at this school.* This was, apparently, in response to students protesting the lack of action on reported sexual assault(s) at their high school. The students planned to continue protesting until something was done about it to their satisfaction. (Go students!)

    * My memory is bit fuzzy on the exact wording. I was watching for the weather report, so not paying much attention to the rest of the broadcast. It happened to catch my ear.