The MP from Doolally

What does any of it mean?

It’s as if people are repeating sentences in a foreign language they are wholly unfamiliar with – reading them off a cheat-sheet without having any idea what they’re saying.

https://twitter.com/NadiaWhittomeMP/status/1679838634378141696

How do we go about “respecting” non-binary people? I simply don’t know where to begin. And why is it that they must be respected more than anyone else? Why are they singled out for this extra level of respect? What is it about them that compels, or should compel, extraordinary respect?

And how can they be recognised in law? They claim to be neither female nor male. How can the law recognise that? What would follow from the law’s recognition of it? How would such recognition affect the boring binary rest of us?

What is “gender-affirming healthcare” for “non-binary” people? Surely if anything it ought to be gender-negating healthcare? But it’s not clear what that would be either.

I wonder if Nadia Whittome MP has ever “sent love” to all women.

Comments

16 responses to “The MP from Doolally”

  1. Mike Haubrich Avatar
    Mike Haubrich

    How does one do “conversion therapy” on a non-binary?

  2. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    By yelling “PICK A SIDE” over and over until the victim surrenders.

  3. Mike Haubrich Avatar
    Mike Haubrich

    Sounds good to me. But have you ever wondered why Enbies choose a plural preferred pronoun? Which is also funny when you realize how much “I” and “Me” are so heavily featured in their speech. They should say “we” in order to be consistent with “They/Them.”

  4. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Not to mention Queen Victoria.

  5. Your Name's not Bruce? Avatar
    Your Name’s not Bruce?

    They should say “we” in order to be consistent with “They/Them.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Consistent! Yeah, that’s a good one!

  6. Papito Avatar

    I wonder if it would be fair to consider anyone who doesn’t have a male gender identity, and who doesn’t have a female gender identity, non-binary. Or does a person need to loudly proclaim that they have a non-binary gender identity up and down the High Street?

    Because I don’t have a gender identity. I just have a sex.

  7. Mike Haubrich Avatar
    Mike Haubrich

    Not to mention Queen Victoria.

    We are amused.

  8. What a Maroon Avatar
    What a Maroon

    They should say “we” in order to be consistent with “They/Them.”

    There was a commentator over at the other place that used to do that (probably still does, but I haven’t been back). It was annoying as hell.

  9. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    They only do it to annoy, because they know it teases.

  10. Mike B Avatar

    Are non-binary people non-bisexual, or does it mean bisexuality is a myth? Inquiring minds want to know.

  11. Papito Avatar

    Mike, I believe the official answer to that question is “Why are you so obsessed with genitals?”

    But yeah, for purposes of non-official inquiries, I guess people who deny the existence of sexes can’t be either homosexual or heterosexual. And I gather that “bisexual” these days means “attracted to both males and females, but does not believe in gender ideology,” whereas “pansexual” means… well, I suppose it means “Why are you so obsessed with genitals?”

    I think that’s the correct answer to the light bulb joke, come to think of it:

    Q: “How many transwomen does it take to screw in a lightbulb?”

    A: “Why are you so obsessed with genitals?”

  12. Sackbut Avatar

    I’ll pick a gender where I’m male only when someone refers to me as female, female only when someone refers to me as male, and either when someone refers to me as “they”, That way, everyone always misgenders me, and I can feel justified in throwing a tantrum anytime.

  13. NightCrow Avatar

    I wonder if Nadia Whittome MP has ever “sent love” to all women.

    Nadia Whittome in March this year:

    Over a century since International Women’s Day was established, its founders’ core message still rings true: there is no fairness for women without economic justice. No awareness campaign will enable mothers to return to work when childcare costs more than their entire salary. The housing crisis makes it harder for women to leave abusive relationships. Without strong workers’ rights, it’s easier for sexist and predatory bosses to carry on without consequences.

    Cuts to public services also disproportionately impact women: both because they make up the majority of public sector workers, and because they depend on the welfare state more than men do.

    Thus far it seems to me that this is mainstream socialist feminism. Only towards the end of the piece does she gesture towards ‘trans’ issues, when she talks about ‘the needs of those most marginalised’. She briefly characterises the specific concerns of women of colour, migrant women, and sex workers and then tacks on a reference to ‘our trans sisters, who also face the consequences of the patriarchy every single day.’

    What ‘consequences’? She doesn’t say. It’s an empty gesture, if you ask me, and so is that tweet about ‘non-binary’ people.

    Who must be ‘protected from conversion “therapy”‘? Really? I went looking for evidence that persons who call themselves non-binary are being subjected to any form of conversion therapy and stumbled across a ‘Nonbinary Wiki with a page on this topic:

    Since this is not Wikipedia, this wiki’s article on conversion therapy should focus on conversion therapy’s impact on transgender and nonbinary people in particular. … This section needs content. You can help fill it out!

    Yes, well.

    So anyway: Nadia Whittome comes across as a Labour Party feminist of a fairly traditional kind and I see no reason to assume she is a hypocrite. But she evidently feels obliged to communicate her ‘allyship’ (to use the current jargon) towards the trans and non-binary cult. At this point she becomes noticeably vaguer and less cogent. Possibly because that whole movement is founded on incoherent fantasies.

  14. Holms Avatar

    #11 Papito,

    But yeah, for purposes of non-official inquiries, I guess people who deny the existence of sexes can’t be either homosexual or heterosexual.

    This is where the invented terms pansexual, polysexual, demisexual, and all sorts of other ridiculous tripe come in handy. It’s no longer about sexes you see, it’s all about idenniny.

  15. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    Mike, #1:

    How does one do “conversion therapy” on a non-binary?

    10010 11 1110010001 10101.

    Clear now?

  16. Karen the chemist Avatar
    Karen the chemist

    @15

    10010 11 1110010001 10101

    Is that from Futurama?

    :)