The kids are all wrong

They’re so confident, so dogmatic, so lecturey with the bullshit. The hand goes up and down, the vowels are crisp, the voice is shouty.

“This includes transgender women,” purple hoody with glasses tells us forcefully, “because they are women – being transgender does not eliminate, whatsoever, their identity as a woman.”

Well that’s us told!

But it’s bullshit. Purple hoody can gesture at us all she likes, she can over-enunciate her words all she likes, it doesn’t make the bullshit true. Yes being a transgender man does eliminate his “identity as a woman” – whatever that might be. A man is a man even if he fantasizes that he’s a woman every hour of every day. Nobody, nobody at all, is required to join him in his fantasy, or assure him that it’s true. And lesbians for damn sure don’t have to pretend that yer man really is a woman and that they would just love to have sex with him.

And then on comes orange hair and wo mama, she’s worse than purple hoody. She’s a nightmare.

“What we’re saying, is that your ‘preferences’ [finger hooks in the air here] are based in transphobic dogma that’s been spread by society for centuries.”

That sounds oddly familiar. It sounds oddly like “You don’t really prefer your own sex, you’re just confused/screwed-up/brainwashed by those confused screwed up kids you hang out with.” It sounds and is oddly and exactly like “you will let this man fuck you or else.” And it’s a woman saying it, and she’s saying it with all the venom of an angry Baptist preacher.

Via Morty.

Comments

23 responses to “The kids are all wrong”

  1. caz Avatar

    “Ratioed”? Damn, do I need to find another new dictionary?

  2. Nullius in Verba Avatar
    Nullius in Verba
  3. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    If there are a lot more replies than likes it’s a sign that people are disagreeing with the tweet (or worse).

  4. Barbara Baker Avatar
    Barbara Baker

    Has anyone produced a video condemning straight men for not wanting sex with penis-owning trans women?

  5. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    I’m gonna guess NO. (Informed guess.)

  6. sailor1031 Avatar

    I’m old school. At 80 YOA I really prefer the opposite sex. My wife (female) told me to write that, but I endorse the message.

  7. Blood Knight in Sour Armor Avatar
    Blood Knight in Sour Armor

    So is this a vid dissecting another one? Not keen on watching transgenderism propaganda if I don’t have to.

  8. Nullius in Verba Avatar
    Nullius in Verba

    Given that it’s Benjamin Boyce, yes, it’s a safe bet that he’s responding to a crazy trans/nb video.

  9. Holms Avatar

    Yes, several clips of trans idiots set the stage, and then the body of the video is criticism of them.

  10. southwest88 Avatar

    “transphobic dogma that’s been spread by society for centuries”

    Not buying that since transgenderism is an invention dating to the last century. So, yeah, miss me with that nonsense. But I will make time to watch the video later because it sounds like a true stemwinder of male entitlement was recorded for posterity.

  11. Tim Harris Avatar

    What is peculiar about this, is that for the people BB whom (rightly) criticises, the individual with particular likes, dislikes, biasses & propensities, doess not to exist, but is merely a cipher pushed around by the winds of power (powerful social ideas, etc, of which the individual is mere receptacle, with no personal agency). From which it follows that the only recourse for the ‘enlightened’ is to have recourse to power in order to impose their enlightened convictions on others. We have seen how that worked out in the Soviet Union, China and Cambodia.

  12. guest Avatar

    I have a PhD in my specialised subject and I don’t sound that utterly confident that I know what I’m talking about when I speak about it in formal academic settings.

  13. iknklast Avatar

    “transphobic dogma that’s been spread by society for centuries”

    Not buying that since transgenderism is an invention dating to the last century. So, yeah, miss me with that nonsense. But I will make time to watch the video later because it sounds like a true stemwinder of male entitlement was recorded for posterity.

    Yeah, but they don’t accept that. They push the ideology that people like Mary Ann Evans, aka George Eliot, or other women who dressed as men just to be allowed to work in a bigoted world, were actually trans. They claim so many people as trans, you might as well erase the history books and start again. I haven’t seen them claiming George Washington identified as a woman yet, or Attila the Hun, but give them time.

  14. Papito Avatar

    Was Alexander the Great transgender? He had curly, shoulder-length blond hair, never had a beard, and wore a skirt and makeup.

    That’s all it takes, right?

  15. Sackbut Avatar

    There was an article going around about how Viking women could command men, own property, make contracts in their own names, and so on. Rather than discuss how wonderfully egalitarian this society was, the article talked about how these Viking women were transgender. Way to reinforce sex roles.

  16. Papito Avatar

    See, Sackbut, gender roles are eternal, fixed, and not culturally relative, but the sex binary is a human invention that we’ve been pushing, for centuries, on those brave folks who challenge those eternal gender roles.

    That totally made sense, right?

  17. iknklast Avatar

    the sex binary is a human invention that we’ve been pushing, for centuries, on those brave folks who challenge those eternal gender roles

    But only in Western society, Papito. Those non-western cultures had no concept of differences between male and female until we forced them to accept our white, imperialist, colonial, socially constructed idea of two (sexes? genders? what have yous?). The idea of male and female, and sexual dimorphism, is so totally, totally western colonialism, it doesn’t even require any evidence to establish that. It’s just evident, so everybody can see, amirite?

  18. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    Atilla was definitely trans. It’s the ‘Hun’ that gives it away, short for ‘Hunnybuns’. Joan of Arc? Trans, I’m afraid. Jean d’Arc, or John, in its Anglicised form.

    As for all of history’s eunochs and castrati – well, puberty blockers were centuries away from being invented, weren’t they?

  19. Banichi Avatar

    Quoting Benjamin:

    the pattern of this argument is that instead of defining any given term he just moves on to another term, and he does [this] chain-link of association

    Does anyone else see this as a sort of Gish gallop – and annoyingly common in these “arguments”?

  20. Banichi Avatar

    they themselves are destabilizing the tolerance project by pushing it too far and not respecting other people’s boundaries

    I’ll stop there – I promise.

  21. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Atilla was definitely trans. It’s the ‘Hun’ that gives it away, short for ‘Hunnybuns’

    Made me laugh.

  22. Rob Avatar

    Papito @ 14, Sackbut @15 and AoS @18 are shortlisted for special internet awards today. AoS might have the edge though.

    Speaking of eunuchs, I recall reading many years ago* that in the Ottoman empire a eunuch could be made by cutting off either just the testes or also the penis; but that ‘high-value’ eunuchs were made by “pounding the testes between two bricks, until useless.” I doubt many of today’s trans would volunteer for that as a path to career advancement.

    * for reasons that are probably now clear, that phrase stuck with me.

  23. Lady Mondegreen Avatar
    Lady Mondegreen

    Banichi–

    Does anyone else see this as a sort of Gish gallop – and annoyingly common in these “arguments”?

    Oh, yes! And I’ve pointed it several times, after explaining the meaning of Gish Gallop for those who weren’t around for the evolution/creation wars and so don’t know the term.

    Happily, there’s a Wikipedia article.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop