This utter garbage fire

This person didn’t like Suzanne Moore’s piece at all.

https://twitter.com/JessicaLond0n/status/1234606350585548801

What’s next after what threat? There was no threat. There was a woman saying that Selina Todd should not have been told not to give her talk and that Woman’s Place UK clearly isn’t a hate group and that female is a biological classification that applies to all living species. None of that is any kind of threat, or anything like a threat, and women do have a right to organize and campaign as women without being screamed at and accused of terrorizing helpless male employees who identify as women. Jess was never in any danger from Suzanne Moore.

So today…

The Huffington Post UK has details:

A deepening row about The Guardian’s coverage of trans rights issues saw a trans woman dramatically announce her resignation in front of colleagues on Tuesday, HuffPost UK understands.

It is the third resignation from the paper’s UK office in months over the issue.

The worker confirmed to HuffPost UK she had handed in her notice a few weeks earlier, but chose to speak out in the busy news meeting on Tuesday over what she called “the straw that broke the camel’s back”.

That is, the worker decided to leverage his resignation into a new way to bully and manipulate anyone who doesn’t agree that men become women by Saying the Words.

The Guardian’s approach to covering trans rights issues has been the subject of internal battles. In 2018, three of the paper’s US staff publicly criticised the decision to run an editorial that they said “promoted transphobic viewpoints”.

Meaning, they published viewpoints that aren’t identical with the reality-denying bullshit that is trans ideology.

Last year, BuzzFeed reported the Guardian had lost two trans employees over its coverage of the issue, with one accusing the newspaper in an email to staff of being “an incredibly transphobic organisation”.

Meaning, an organization that includes some people who don’t agree with every item in the reality-denying bullshit that is trans ideology.

It’s not phobia to decline to believe or pretend to believe reality-denying bullshit. We have a right to resist lies and bullshit. That right is considerably more important, and of longer vintage, than the mythical “right” to be ratified as the sex one is not.

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11 responses to “This utter garbage fire”

  1. Screechy Monkey Avatar
    Screechy Monkey

    “Gentlemen! You can’t express opinions here! This is the Editorial Department of a newspaper!”

  2. Omar Avatar

    …. the reality-denying bullshit that is trans ideology.

    It’s not phobia to decline to believe or pretend to believe reality-denying bullshit. We have a right to resist lies and bullshit. That right is considerably more important, and of longer vintage, than the mythical “right” to be ratified as the sex one is not.

    Vintage OB. Should be carved in marble onto something like a Roman arch, and set up as a prominent landmark in ………………………… (enter city, town or village of choice.)

  3. Your Name's not Bruce? Avatar
    Your Name’s not Bruce?

    Do people with anorexia think it’s hateful and threatening if other people do not affirm and validate their delusional belief that they are overweight?

    If reality is a “threat” or a “dogwhistle”, then reality must be denied and twisted. To not go along with this at the behest of TRAs is “violence.” Did I get that right?

  4. iknklast Avatar

    Do people with anorexia think it’s hateful and threatening if other people do not affirm and validate their delusional belief that they are overweight?

    I can answer that. No, we do not. We just believe they are wrong.

  5. Tim Harris Avatar

    What a pathetic, craven person. ‘Threat’ – where? ‘I’m SCARED TO GO INTO WORK TOMORROW’ – why? I suspect this strategy of ‘Me, Me, me! My poor feelings!’ and the avoidance of any attempt to address what is actually said by someone deemed an enemy is wholly cynical. Or perhaps it is a certain kind of trans-woman’s idea of how women are supposed to behave – emotionally & mindlessly, and, if what Julie Bindel says is correct (as no doubt it is), wholly dishonestly: the dishonesty, one supposes, they can disclaim on the grounds that they were overcome with emotion.

  6. latsot Avatar

    @Tim, let’s see…

    Cynicism:

    “Look how oppressed I am! I’m literally too scared to go into work!!!! After conveniently working out my notice period, of course.”

    Girly, emotional, irrational feelings, proving real womanhood:

    “Don’t you see? Even I’m scared! ME! A big strong ma…. no, wait…”

    They don’t seem to be mutually exclusive and they both – as you say – have the common factor of dishonesty. You seem to have a lot of it covered.

    I suspect there’s a fair bit too of:

    “Unlike those other women (those who are women) I have something real to be frightened about (an article was published by someone whose opinion differs to mine) as opposed to all that wishy-washy stuff about daily threats, harassment, systemic and systematic bullying, aggressive and passive aggressive conduct in the workplace, judgement of ideas, conduct and performance plus the dismissal of ideas and contributions based wholly on sex and/or sexual attractiveness rather than merit and all the other inconsequential things those other women (those who are women) whine constantly about.”

    and a certain amount of:

    “When you think about it, I’m the brave one here, for being scared that because an article got published, everyone will suddenly run amok in the building hacking at trans people with office supplies. Or something. When you think about it, I’m the real feminist here for finally having the courage to speak out. Women (who are women) should be grateful, when you think about it, because I’m here to point out how lucky they are to not be really oppressed and frightened like I am and to have me to show them how to feminist properly.”

  7. KBPlayer Avatar

    You do wonder about these people’s employment prospects. They now have reputations as trouble-makers, who you’d think twice about taking on. Same with Lola Olufemi. Who’d want her at a conference when there’s a chance she’d derail it?

  8. Tim Harris Avatar

    Yes, Lola Olufemi. ‘Sex and the body are not the frontier FOR ME. MY imagination is bigger than that. MY liberated future includes us all… And MY solidarity is not dependent on chromosomes.’

    Well, bully for YOU.

    I recall the story (perhaps rather misogynistic) of the French drawing master who was trying to teach some spoiled mademoiselle of a rich home (I think I read it one of Karl Popper’s books, where he was attacking the notion that the arts are concerned with self-expression).

    ‘But if I draw like this, I can’t express my feelings!’ said the girl.

    ‘Nobody, mam’selle’, said the drawing master, ‘but maman is interested in your feelings.’

    In the cases of both Lola & Jess, the strategy is one childish intimidation. Tantruming. And, alas, it too often seems to work, as the craven response of the Ruskin conference organisers shows. But for how long, I wonder.

  9. Sastra Avatar

    At some point, the “most vulnerable group in the world”is going to provide just a tad too much evidence for its vulnerability and society is going to collectively peak. I’m not sure what the tipping point will be, but this “I’m scared to go into work” style of hyperbole looks to me like it’s dancing on the edge.

  10. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Screechy @ 1 – classic!

  11. Your Name's not Bruce? Avatar
    Your Name’s not Bruce?

    Do people with anorexia think it’s hateful and threatening if other people do not affirm and validate their delusional belief that they are overweight?

    I can answer that. No, we do not. We just believe they are wrong.

    I wonder how far a political movement made up of (as far as I’m aware) mostly girls and young women DEMANDING universal affirmation and validation of their delusions would get?