The violation of the dignity of others

There was a guest appearance by the Holocaust, because of course there was.

Is it a violation of the dignity of others to fail to pretend they are something they are not?

I think you could make a case that it’s the other way around. It’s not all that dignified to be humored in your fantasies about yourself. A component of dignity for adults is being treated like an adult. Adults don’t humor other adults in fantasies.

At any rate, See also lack of belief in the Holocaust is well-poisoning at best.

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9 responses to “The violation of the dignity of others”

  1. Nullius in Verba Avatar
    Nullius in Verba

    The ET found that if a belief necessarily results in humiliation of others, then that it is a component of the belief. … The core component of the belief that C will refer to a person by the pronoun she considers appropriate means that manifestation is baked into the belief. … Quotes ¶88: “If part of the belief necessarily will result in the violation of the dignity of others, that is a component of the belief, rather than something separate, and will be relevant to determining whether the belief is a protected philosophical belief.”

    Applied the way they want, this line of argumentation seems to preclude expressing any belief that contradicts any belief important to another person (in the workplace).

  2. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    It seems to depend on how they define “the violation of the dignity of others,” but they seem to be defining it very broadly indeed.

  3. twiliter Avatar

    Philosophical belief is an oxymoron. Protect that. :P

  4. Sastra Avatar

    What’s considered necessary to one’s “dignity,” and what’s considered “humiliating,” is often a matter of subjective evaluation, not objective fact. Consider religious insult: a Muslim may feel violated if someone makes fun of the Prophet, and a Catholic may shrug off or even laugh at a joke against the Pope. You could say that that first version of Islam contains, as a component of the belief, the idea that it is outrageous and rage-inducing to mock Mohammed. Because it is not necessarily so.

    It’s therefore a component of a particular interpretation of transgender ideology that “misgendering” will cause a transgender person to feel humiliated because being referred to by preferred pronouns is absolutely critical to their sense of self-worth. It’s easy to imagine trans people not caring about pronouns, or telling themselves that they are unaffected by what other people think or say. A belief system often creates an emotional reaction through framing what’s important and what’s not. If every pro-trans Twitter meme and Reddit post made light of pronoun usage, I suspect most trans people would accept the construct. There is no fact of the matter regarding the general connection between pronouns and human dignity.

    In other words, both sides are involved. Speaking a gender critical belief — such as “transwomen are men” — cannot violate the dignity of transwomen who either agree, or don’t consider it important.

  5. Your Name's not Bruce? Avatar
    Your Name’s not Bruce?

    The ET found that if a belief necessarily results in humiliation of others, then that it is a component of the belief. …

    It is necessary for the Emperor’s dignity that you believe he is clothed. The Emperor will make you say he is not naked.

    If the Emperor pretends to be something he is not, any humiliation arising from people responding to, and pointing out, the reality of the actual state of things is on him, not those speaking the truth. Or, as Magdalen Berns put it, “I’d rather be rude than a fucking liar.”

  6. Papito Avatar

    What’s considered necessary to one’s “dignity,” and what’s considered “humiliating,” is often a matter of subjective evaluation, not objective fact. Consider religious insult: a Muslim may feel violated if someone makes fun of the Prophet, and a Catholic may shrug off or even laugh at a joke against the Pope. You could say that that first version of Islam contains, as a component of the belief, the idea that it is outrageous and rage-inducing to mock Mohammed. Because it is not necessarily so.

    Careful now, you may incite a transgender jihad.

  7. Blood Knight in Sour Armor Avatar
    Blood Knight in Sour Armor

    Depending what “jihad” entailed that might at least take care of that problem.

  8. maddog1129 Avatar

    What does “C” stand for in the summary?

  9. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Claimant, I think – i.e. Maya.